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Tuesday, April 28, 2015

When The Happening happens

Longtime friend of the blog Bert wants a post on Baltimore, so here it is.

From my Twitter feed:


Police are typically older and hence more risk-averse than the average military cannon fodder. They just want to finish the day in one piece and return to their families. Every day on the job is one day closer and a few more dollars towards a vested pension. If they're far enough along and know the system, they can translate that rioter's thrown brick into a solid retirement.

If I were on a skirmish line in full riot gear, eyeball to eyeball with the savages, you can bet I wouldn't be moving a muscle when the projectiles start flying. Hell, I'd be praying for something that draws just enough blood for all those pictures I'm going to take in the hospital and wave around at my disability hearing. See y'all suckers on the Florida Gulf Coast, and I'll be taking up tarpon fishing.

When the civil order really and truly breaks down, the police all leave to protect their families.

Very, very few people--social democrats, conservatives or libertarians--actually get this.

19 comments:

IA said...

Trouble is with reliance on gov; they might one day decide that 'socially and economically disadvantaged' people, i.e., non-white guys, need special treatment in order to protect them from the not socially and economically disadvantaged.

They already do this with SBA 8(a) minority and women contracting.

Baltimore blacks own 35% of all businesses while women own 32%. Essentially they designated themselves 'disadvantaged' irregardless of whether they are or not and simply take what they want. There must be massive amounts of government money in Baltimore. Plus, corporations currying favor from black-women controlled area.

What's to stop them from doing the same to other government programs like Medicare and Social Security.

Feminists-blacks (and Jews) can harrass and outlaw fraternities and other white male self-interested associations. They are driving (normal) white men and Christians out of government, colleges, and business.

Rather than an apocalyptic collapse couldn't there be a slow generational slide into Eloi dhimmitude?

Corvinus said...

“They just want to finish the day in one piece and return to their families. Every day on the job is one day closer and a few more dollars towards a vested pension.”

[Laughs] In any occupation, you have your loafers. But to characterize an entire group of engaging in this conduct is ignorance at its finest hour. I should know by now that it is your M.O. to make outrageous claims. My bad.


“If I were on a skirmish line in full riot gear, eyeball to eyeball with the savages, you can bet I wouldn't be moving a muscle when the projectiles start flying. Hell, I'd be praying for something that draws just enough blood for all those pictures I'm going to take in the hospital and wave around at my disability hearing.”

Your mind’s first inclination is these situations is “fights or flight”, NOT standing your ground and praying you get bludgeoned by a brick to draw disability; you would defend yourself or you would immediately flee. It is easy for you now to tell us what you would do. I assure you in that situation, from a biological point of view, you would NOT simply and calmly make yourself a target. Besides, you have riot gear. You get to bash the skulls of niggers. Wouldn’t that be fun in your eyes?


“When the civil order really and truly breaks down, the police all leave to protect their families.”

The riots during the 1968 Democratic National Convention disproves your statement.

In Baltimore, the police were given orders not to go in to certain areas. Why? There were widdle scardy cats? No. The anticipation was to let the rioters blow off steam, and then the police were to move in and clean up the mess. The thought process of this POLITICAL decision was to deescalate matters. I vehemently disagree with this approach. There is no reason why the police, state troopers, and National Guard could have been quickly mobilized and brought in to keep residents safe from the hoodlems.


Bert, we’re waiting for your insight commentary. 3, 2, 1…

IA said...

If the blacks were smart they'd only kill the white men, not the women, like the Muslim chap said at the Parisian kosher market.

Anonymous said...

i live on the gulf coast and he's correct about the number of urban northeast cops that are "disabled" down here.

patrick kelly said...

"
“When the civil order really and truly breaks down, the police all leave to protect their families.”

The riots during the 1968 Democratic National Convention disproves your statement."

He's likely referring to a state much more broken down than that. Think at least a couple notches closer to Sarajevo.

The mobs weren't marching toward the neighborhoods where the cops families lived in 68'

Corvinus said...

"He's likely referring to a state much more broken down than that. Think at least a couple notches closer to Sarajevo."

Until AG confirms, you are merely speculating. Regardless, the civil disorder broke down to the point that Chi-town cops came in and busted heads.

"The mobs weren't marching toward the neighborhoods where the cops families lived in 68"

No, they were disrupting the civility of the DNC and the tranquility of the downtown area.

The Anti-Gnostic said...

Corvinus - about the closest extant Americans have come to a total breakdown in the civil order is post-Katrina New Orleans. And sure enough, the cops stopped policing and left to guard their neighborhoods. Some looted. It took military and paramilitary intervention from the next two levels of government to restore order.

If you want to see what happens with things kicked up a notch, read about the former state of Yugoslavia, and the disappearing states of Syria, Iraq and Libya. After five days, or more like three, the police head home. Police don't have an over-arching pro patria creed like the military.

Incidentally, this uproar over police brutality will eventually mean that cops stop policing black neighborhoods.

patrick kelly said...

"the civil disorder broke down to the point that Chi-town cops came in and busted heads...........
....they were disrupting the civility of the DNC and the tranquility of the downtown area."


When faced with the choice of protecting downtown, your neighborhood, or where their family lives they will abandon downtown and your neighborhood to protect their own.....911 will be non-functional for the rest of us....

Corvinus said...

“About the closest extant Americans have come to a total breakdown in the civil order is post-Katrina New Orleans.”

You are merely offering an opinion, which you have to substantiate with evidence. Looking forward to your post on this matter…


“And sure enough, the cops stopped policing and left to guard their neighborhoods.”

You are ill-informed. The cops STEPPED up their policing, with federal assistance, and took back neighborhoods from hoodlems.

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2009/08/secret-history-hurricane-katrina


“Some looted. It took military and paramilitary intervention from the next two levels of government to restore order.”

Along with local police who assisted in arresting lawbreakers and shooting looters.

http://www.propublica.org/nola/story/nopd-order-to-shoot-looters-hurricane-katrina/


“If you want to see what happens with things kicked up a notch, read about the former state of Yugoslavia, and the disappearing states of Syria, Iraq and Libya. After five days, or more like three, the police head home. Police don't have an over-arching pro patria creed like the military.

Completely different scenarios, my friend. You are describing larger events, national in scope and a state of war, compared to local happenings that eventually find a resolution after days of civil unrest. Try again.


“Incidentally, this uproar over police brutality will eventually mean that cops stop policing black neighborhoods.”

No, it will decidedly not mean what you say. White cops in America will continue patrol black neighborhoods. Unless you have definitive proof of an ongoing trend that is likely to lead to that occurrence.




"When faced with the choice of protecting downtown, your neighborhood, or where their family lives they will abandon downtown and your neighborhood to protect their own.....911 will be non-functional for the rest of us...."

IF the situation is on a grand-scale, one of epic proportions, perhaps.

Bert said...

This nigga...

Corvinus said...

“This nigga…”

Did you fall back to sleep, Bert, after tying one on last night with cheap whiskey? Finish the story.

Bernard Brandt said...

"Conservatives are just learning that when the riots hit, the police won't be there."

Oh, come now. I learned that back in 1992 when the L.A. Riots hit. So did a lot of Korean business owners.

My real political education began after 2001, when I had to move from the whitebread beach town where I grew up to more "vibrant" communities.

I learned to cut my hair and shave my beard to stop getting harassed by cops on a weekly basis.

I learned that I differed from blacks and latinos in that the same 'facial' profiling occurred, but they couldn't escape it with a shave and a haircut.

I learned that L.A., like many cities, does ticketing for revenue, and if you can't pay immediately, the price goes up from tens to hundreds of dollars in penalties. And if those aren't paid, you wind up either without your car, or your license, or in prison.

I learned that if something were stolen from you, the cops would do nothing to investigate to get it back.

I learned that when the police needed to be there in minutes, they arrived hours later. Fortunately, firemen and ambulance drivers don't have the same priorities.

I learned that my black and latino neighbors are even more oppressed than a poor white, and have less chance to get out.

And I learned that, Langston Hughes to the contrary, a dream deferred will often explode into rage.

IA said...

Bernard,

They hate us because we're better looking, smarter and do more. It will never end. Are you gay?

Corvinus said...

Indeed, IA, black is beautiful. Hell, ALL races are magnificently attractive, as God intended it to be.

The Anti-Gnostic said...

If you don't like having the civil order enforced by police, wait until you see the civil order that gets enforced by non-police.

Bernard Brandt said...

Anti-Gnostic,

It's not a matter of what I like.

It's a matter that where I live, the civil order is already being enforced by non-police. The cops are in their cop copters at night, flying about impotently, while flashing their Eye of Sauron spotlights down upon the scenes of carnage which they are powerless to affect or change.

And, no, I've just brought my wife home from a three week stint at the hospital where she has been malpracticed upon, and so I am neither particularly happy nor homo. In neither sense of the word can I be described to be 'gay'.

The Anti-Gnostic said...

Prayers for your wife. And it sounds like you're finding out that you're not just buying a house, you're buying neighbors.

IA said...

Sorry, Bernard. But, it's not manly to "care" about other men who despise you for being cowardly and weak, and use violence to enforce their demands. Haven't you learned anything from the last 50 years?

Bernard Brandt said...

IA,

I have come to the conclusion that you are nothing other than a troll, attempting to derail conversations with inflammatory statements like 'gay' and 'manly'. I am uninterested in such tactics.

When you decide to engage in an argument (in the Monty Python sense), I'll be there. Otherwise, if you continue with contradiction or abuse, my only words to you will be "shoo, troll, shoo!" Or silence.